Whether you are the same anon from earlier or not, you are a darling.
(No really I keep saying this, because I want to make sure y’all hear it: I wake up — or, rather, I wake up and putter around and try to get coffee in me and then hear the kids waking up and realize I’ve gotten nothing done — feeling drained and overwhelmed sometimes, and then I get to Tumblr and learn that some person I probably don’t know, somewhere, has read my stuff and went to the trouble of finding my ask page and reaching out to me and expressing an interest in my Infinite-related ramblings, and it lifts my heart. It really does.)
Based on the GIFs I’ve seen of late — like the one of Sunggyu’s interview where he discusses his post-Another Me funk, or the one where they’re talking about who cries when — Woollim is apparently feeling a little more confident about letting them express less predictable, more human emotions.
Thank you for the recommendation! Editor Nicole is admirable.
When I bought a car last year, I threatened to leave over a $200 fee while carrying my then-1-year-old; the salesman caved rather than have to get the damn car seat out of the car. (For the curious, it was Dave at Gunther Volkswagen Mall of Georgia, and while I have nothing but good wishes for him — and for the nice woman in the gift shop who ended up helping me find my chosen tattoo artist — the dealership itself has a ’60s-retro theme, which translates to a great deal of cartoonishly misogynistic art on the walls.)
Hi, anon! You’re talking about this post.
I honestly know absolutely nothing about whether an individual person would prefer “Berber” or “Amazigh”. Here’s the “Amazigh” tag of the person who originally wrote into medievalpoc; that might help.
Good luck! And I’m curious to hear about living in Morocco — I’ve never been to the country.
There’s yet more Cyrillic projected onto the back wall behind Dongwoo (I didn’t notice it until watching the behind-the-scenes footage).
Haven’t looked at the tattoos yet, though. Clearly this is something that is going to have to be explored in great video-pausing detail.
Anon! You are catching me on a day when I need to forgo researching a topic of great interest to me (Infinite) and concentrate on researching a topic of great stress and nail-chewing (how to lease a car). So I cannot catch up at the moment.
The only radio show I have watched with subs of late was I think the “Kiss the Radio” one with everyone except Woohyun right after Season 2 promotions started, and even then I couldn’t see the whole thing. I am quite behind. (Total amount of High School: Love On watched so far: four minutes.)
You have already done me a mitzvah, anon, so accept my hugs in return; if you have time to do me another one, I will be most grateful for direct links.
(Also, if you have any advice on leasing a damn car, I am all ears. It is apparently even more confusing and potentially costly than buying one. I did not think that was possible.)
Thanks for the recommendation! It took me a second to find the post you were talking about but I’m about to reblog it.
Was it a good cry? I hope it was a good cry! I hate to think of anyone crying sad tears over B1A4.
It’s funny: with Infinite I keep trying to poke at the cracks, out of the (quite possibly mistaken) impression that the gentlemen themselves are not as happy with the status quo as they should be, or want us to believe they are. But with B1A4 I take the myth almost completely at face value. I mean, I know CNU has spoken of his struggles with his father and Sandeul has publicly grieved his aunt and all has not always been sunshine and roses between CNU and Jinyoung, or between Baro and the rest of the group, but I persist in marking these not as Evidence of Deeper Problems but as Obstacles Overcome by Love and Teamwork and Lyric Credits and Shared Dinners Heavy on Barbecued Meat. Bipo has become my happy place within my happy place.
(All radio-palava's fault, I swear.)
To be honest, I agree with you. I don’t know if it is 99% media play, but at least, if it is, they’re doing it well. Of course, there are things that seem wrong, like for example members repeatedely mocking Sandeul’s weight, and things like this, but I really believe in them being good friends and really like a constructive relationship.
I do like Infinite too, they’re in my top three bands, but I see what you mean. What is making me feel so ill at ease recently is how we see all the cracks and the things they possibly have hidden all of these years. It is normal for a group to start feeling more about their own situation rather than the band situation when you get to the point where you have fame. That is what I had the feeling of for Infinite, once they reached the goal they had, it somehow just started going to solo activities, and with recognition, the band slowly drifted to little groups. But I guess that’s probably something really normal. They are 7, and it’s like hard to keep with everyone. In a 7 group person, you rarely like the seven person equally.
I really think some people in B1A4 are closer than others (like Baro and Sandeul are an obvious evidence), but I still nurish the thought of them really going through their carreer and the things all together. They bring me so much joy to be honest, and I don’t think you can calculate every little tweets, or every little supports in everyday life. I just believe that B1A4 are so much like brothers that, whatever happens, they’ll stick together through the end. And their aim at doing good music makes them even better to me. I think they think mainly about the team before themselves, still.
I remember, one of the most moving things recently to me was how Baro and Sandeul went to help Gongchan in diving for his natation show, because he was afraid of doing so. I just rely on things like this and go forward. No matter the problems of CNU with his father, no matter the grief and pain of Sandeul for his aunt or his grand father, and the bitter memories of baro towards his childhood and his younger sister… I think they’ve gone through hard times together and hope that they will keep going through it all together.
Sigh, god, what B1A4 did to me…
You get me.
The only clarification I feel like making is that when I talk about “cracks showing” with Infinite, I’m talking about the entire setup that gives us Infinite: the members themselves, the staff, Woollim/SM C&C. I’m not convinced that pursuing solo activities would necessarily strain the relationships between the members themselves (except, like I speculated earlier, when they might be directly competing with one another). If anything, solo activities might make it easier for them to be friends, give them some breathing room and accomplishments they can claim for themselves alone. But I say that having been raised in a more individualistic culture.
And for what it’s worth, I also tend to not want to question the narrative of B1A4 as creator-dols who get space to contribute to concepts and write songs. That, too, could be media play — everyone seems to be on the “Oh, our idol is totally helping write!” bandwagon of late* — and God knows there’s plenty of room to manipulate credits in the music business. But I want it to be true.
* Hyuna apparently contributed lyrics to some of the songs on her upcoming album, and I hope those lyrics are fantastic.
Infinite, “Back”. Both the song and video feel like classic pre-“Chaser” Infinite (compare: the orchestral sweeps of "Tic Toc", the ambiguous ending of "BTD", or "Paradise" for both); “I want you back” is a classic boy band lyric, and the instant-classic chorus is a perfect setting for it. The structure of this song, however, bewilders me:
(AA’ BB’) CC A’ BB’ A’ CC
where the part in parentheses is the part before the beat drops and CC is the chorus. The first part is over a minute long in a roughly 3:30 song; after a few listens, I can get into it, but only because I know “I want you back, back, back, back, back” is waiting for me on the other side.
Today’s Inkigayo stage, I think, had the right idea by inserting a huge break between the slow part and the beat; if nothing else, this allowed us to hear what the song might sound like if it just started at the beat drop, i.e. much better. I think the advantage of the current symmetrical, CABAC structure is that it gives us enough of a taste of the chorus without killing it, but I’m curious as to how one more chorus in the middle might sound. Or maybe I’m just addicted to that rhythm.
As for the video, it’s the group’s best since "The Chaser", though the “save the girl” plotline did make me go back to F.CUZ’s “NO. 1”, where a (strangely faceless) woman with a sword single-handedly saves all of the bloodied, beaten members - not that it’s mishandled here, though, just tired. However, with that said, the fact that they (seem to) fail to save the girl is refreshing. Purportedly, part 2 is coming tomorrow, but as it is, the open ending made me like it better immediately. In fact, the real triumph of this MV is that it makes the intro seem necessary: it bends the opening action sequences past “Acting!” and into full melo mode.
I agree, I don’t need a triumphant conclusion. (I am tempted to read this as the Infinite dichotomy at work: they’re suave idols // but they’re dorks // who try to save the girl // and fail // but look dramatic and handsome // as they get, as Strong Bad would put it, the snot, the tar, and the everloving life out of them.
A query: where was the damn thing filmed? Or, rather, who came up with the graffiti on the back wall during the blue-clad dance sequence (pause the video at 2:25 and you’ll see what I’m talking about)? I see “Serb” written twice and what looks like Cyrillic: “собои” and “тавая” and I have no idea what either of those two words mean. I guess they didn’t want to use anything that might be read in Korean and misinterpreted. Or someone on the production staff has a crush on Novak Djokovic. Or the whole thing is actually a metaphor for the Balkan wars, and Sunggyu’s little sister is Sarajevo!… man, I hope not.
Enough hope-killing confounding geopolitics! There is drama, true drama, afoot. This is astounding. I do not know how they can top it.
For one, there’s the extreme economy of the storytelling — establishing shot of Girl in Peril; establishing shot of villains in tattoos; establishing shot of BikerGang!Infinite; FIGHT. (I recounted this to my husband and he said, “So it actually has less setup than Double Dragon?”)
and then Sungjong actually does attack with an an umbrella
And then BikerGang!Infinite turns out to be terrible at fighting: after taking their opponents by surprise and winning the first round (against the red shirts, natch), they allow themselves to get split up and pummeled
pummeled so thoroughly, in fact, that the tattooed villains manage to actually knock the gel right out of Sungyeol’s hair
fortunately for Infinite, their formidable opponents specialize in strikes to the shoulder rather than the head, which can be easily recovered from once one has spent enough time lying on one’s back and looking tragically determined
and somewhere in there is choreography
the song? It feels like it’s all over the place, even more than “Destiny” was, which is odd, since “Destiny” had more obvious variations. But “Destiny” also had some breaks for breath-catching, whereas after the long intro “Back” just goes from high note to high note to high note. (And given all those high notes, it makes even less sense than usual that Sungjong is underused.)
suffice to say I am enjoying this rip-roaring melodrama and I hope the gentlemen are too.
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It so hard to figure out who to trust and listen to. All I know is the whole situation makes my heart ache.
I thought of what you said this morning, while reading a Ha’aretz article — I think this one, though now I get a please-pay block when I try to load it — that stated that the IDF is now saying that they believe that concrete let into Gaza for civilian reasons has been used to create tunnels for Hamas military use.
Now, this could be absolutely true: it would not surprise me at all to learn that Hamas was withholding what little building material Gaza residents are allowed to use for attack purposes. This could be completely false: It would also not surprise me to hear that the IDF was choosing to say the worst of its sworn enemy now and factcheck later. It could be that some concrete was used for tunnels, but not all; it could be that, in the absence of a blockade, a much smaller percentage of the concrete would be tunnel-bound; it could be that, in the absence of a blockade, the tunnels would be larger and capable of receiving much more from weapons dealers. From here, any of those things could be true.
Making things worse, one’s view of the truth, one’s political read of the situation, and one’s moral stance are all intertwined. If you feel that Israel is hell-bent on demonizing and exterminating Palestinians, you’ll read the concrete story one way, and if you feel that Israel is defending itself against a ruthless, heartless, nihilist enemy, you’ll read it another way. I know I can’t separate emotion from reason when talking about Israel; I assume that holds true for many people, even if they’re not Jewish.
(Ha’aretz, by the way, is regarded as the most left-wing/critical of the Israeli government, among all the Israeli national newspapers. More background.)
So that you know where I’m coming from, I’ll admit to major confirmation biases in my reading: as in, I gravitate towards opinions from people similar to me — Jewish but unhappy about the settlements. (If you think I’m defensive now, trust me: there is no better way to work me into a foaming, inarticulate, unconvincing, hysterical rage than to say the word “settlements.”) My go-to source is Jeffrey Goldberg, who is American but an IDF veteran, and one of those people who’s not right-wing enough for the right wing and not left-wing enough for the left wing. I am probably more pro-Israel than is Peter Beinart, but I admire his work, and I hope he gets another chance to speak in Atlanta someday. In general for Judaism and social-justice issues, I favor Rabbi Josh (who would be my rabbi if I practiced regularly, and if I could get down to Clairmont Road on a Friday night) and Rabbi Andy Bachman, who is currently transitioning from Congregation Beth Elohim in Brooklyn to secular social-justice work.
(As I reread that paragraph, I’m struck that it’s so male-dominated; I’ll have to have a think about the major female voices on this conflict.)